Re: FORTH - PropForth on the Hive
Verfasst: Mo 4. Okt 2010, 12:37
Steffen -
Please see my edits above
Please see my edits above
Thank you for your added informations.
I have tested something and give you a statement of my results.
Please see my markings with ###:
Steffen
Hi Steffen
- Tera Term 57600, 8 , N, 1, no handshake
- hiresvga20100912-0943 fix-hive.f marking all,
Did you include "fl" at the beginning of file? "fl" must be first thing, 'fastload' (see documentation page) must do pasted text or errors will occur
- after this I press Enter and put in "saveforth" and press Enter
ensure that no error "UNDEFINED WORD" message has occurred, it would be due to omission of "fl"
### command "fl" is the first line from copied file
- then I see more and more points
each point is a 64 byte page written to EEPROM, this is correct operation
- if points stopped I put in "reboot" or make a hardware reboot
- but the result on my moonitor is the same as before
Something has gone wrong.
The SPIN program is correct and is using the Hive VGA pinout, as evidenced by the correct blue display with white garbage characters.
The Hive VGA forth code (hiresvga20100912-0943 fix-hive.f) has not loaded correctly on to the propforth kernel (and saved to EEPROM via the saveforth word). If it was me, it would be due to loading hiresvga20100912-0943 fix-hive.f onto the wrong prop, or using the hiresvga20100912-0943 fix.f for the demo board (both of which happened
). But you should not have had this chance if you use only Bella and only the HIVE zip download.> other 2 Propeller-Chips
I put disable-led.spin on admin to see the heartbeat, and standard ethernet-regnatix.spin diagnostic on Reg for development. but propforth does not particularly mind as long as nobody is fighting for pins.
### I have done the other 2 Propellerchips completely outside from the HIVE-Board now, to be sure that no conflicts with Bellatrix exist, als ENC28J60 is deactived by removing chrystal
>I wondering also about the following effect: In use the terminal-program with a key-response. I must give each character very slowly.
This is not normal. If you can solve this issue, you should solve the others.
*** DO you have previous programs loaded on the other two Props? - trying disabling them during diagnostics
*** DO you have an old key board? Sal used an ancient one, but mine was a new model and had a cheaper clock circuit, we had to increase the time-out delay waiting for key codes, I was getting two incorrect characters "y" and "z" were swapped.
*** DO you have a very new fancy programmable keyboard from China? If it is too fancy and needs to talk to its driver? That is kind of stretching, but thats all I got right now.
### I have used 3 different keyboards (non-programmable standard-keyboards with prices around 5 $ until 30 $) with no effect. After this I have used Original Microsoft Monitor-Keyboard-Program with
my mouse. The same result by response of the words. Now I think the keyboard
is not the source of not correct response.
>In other case I get a wrong response from propeller-forth. Maybe I write "reboot" and I get as response "reroot".
This is not expected. This is usually due to demonic possession possibly by ancient spirits from China, or there is noise on the serial line from other means. You could be ripping video on a slow machine, or too near heavy industrial equipment, or of course demonic possession. Swap the keyboard for an old standard model before you call a priest.
### I have deactivated my Wireless LAN, Powerlan, Microwave is not on and no industrial equipment in my near. I have switched off the FIFO-Hardware-Buffer for the serial Port and have used different Baud-rates, with or without handshake and so on.
I use USB to seriell Converter from Prolific, maybe they have a driver problem but
I use this also with propeller tool for programming the HIVE without problems and also communication with other microcontroller works over serial program works fine with this converter. I want to check with another converter in next time, but at the moment I don't have a second converter by the hand.
I thinking also about to use another computer as programming device in next days.
>This effect I have with all 3 used terminal programs. Is this a known effect.
Never seen before except in the case of demonic possession, which turned out to be a loose wire in the serial cable. (but the demonic possession story is much more interesting).
***** hiresvga20100912-0943 fix-hive.f dhould be loaded on BELLA (Hive VGA pinout)
***** hiresvga20100912-0943 fix.f should be loaded on Regnatix and Administra (standard version)
NOTE: code to access Hive hardware configuration on Regnatix and Administra is being developed, we will try to use Regnatix.f and Administra.f (forth code files) to add the functionality as FORTH extensions instead of kernel modifications, as possible.
drohne235 has had success. please see if he has any insight, it would be easier as he can answer in German. Do what he did if possible.
###
I try to reach drohne235 via telephone next days to support me.